Einen Himbeerschnaps, bitte. I just woke up and we said, we are gonna be drinking!

You should have a beer. The guy in there is supposed to be the world champion in beer drafting. How do you feel about that?

I don’t feel anything!

You just came back from Art Basel, how do you experience these commercial shows?

It’s like watching your parents having sex. Lawrence Weiner said that.

So how does watching your parents having sex feels like?

Hey, hey, hey. Take it easy. I could answer it’s like watching an artwork being sold at Liste Art Basel.


The snaps is being served.


Super, danke! We need one more for you. This has to be fun both sides. Don’t be so professional.

I think we are done. We can leave on the “I am professional” note. That’s all I needed.

Why is it that your Facebook still says you are living in New York?

Does it? Well, probably because I forgot about it.

Yeah right, you lived there just a month, correct? That’s a bit pretentious.

Hey, I have serious questions, too.

Throw it. You are typing too slow, should we call your assistant?

Hey, that’s you having an assistant. So, seriously, how has your hometown Pristina, Kosovo, the transit-city, shaped your artistic practice?

Oh god! Now I get to do the tourist guide here.

Ok, I heard you had balls?

I still have. So you better drink more.

I don’t know what do say. 

Can I make your shoes a little bit dirty. They are too clean. Everybody in Berlin could tell you are from Munich / New York New York New York.

No, but yeah….

Do you like my new Ayzit Bostan sweater?

Yes, very nice. Then you studied at Städele in Frankfurt. You became the godmother of your professor’s child. Is he, Markus Miessen, continuously influential for your work?

What a bitch! Markus is gonna be flattered. But don’t write stuff like that. Everybody is gonna think I am a crazy artist. But deep down I am serious. Yes, I am the godmother of his child. Should I type, too? You are slow! Why are you asking about me being a godmother? Do you think I am not capable of being that?

Just do drop some knowledge. Here’s more: you are from the youngest nation and landed in a city, which has cemented its structure, routines, and practices. Have you found your creative space here easily?

That was too fast. And too smart also. Can I read it by myself.

You landed in a city, which has institutionalised structure, routines, and practices, have you found your creative space here easily?

It’s hard to say, because I am not often enough here. Officially I am based here since this is my current address. My work is more international so I don’t see that Munich has had an imprint on me yet. Also, since I haven’t studied here, maybe. Munich is one of the cities from which I work from. I can fix this answer more diplomatically once you let me correct this. 

Hans Ulrich Obrist celebrated your residence in Munich as a renaissance of the local art scene on a global scale – I am not aware of others, do you feel lonely? Or more like the prophet abroad?

Oops. (Silence). No comment: I think Munich is still too expensive for young artists to move here. In that sense, I feel a bit lonely as a foreign artist and the scene of the young generation of artists seems very local. Where can I buy filters for my cigarettes? Oi, drinking Saures Radler is like water, phew. Can you order me another snaps?

Absolutely, it’s in my best interest. You are a “Non-European-Passport-Person”, bureaucracy makes life even more complicated, huh?

Totally, when I moved here first they gave me a visa only for two months. They couldn’t figure out my status between my Phd in Vienna and a freelancing artist. Just last year, after 6 years, I got my 2 years visa. Before, I felt like a tourist. That was really painful. Now, don’t make the next question: how is your German? I wanted to keep my international status and don’t turn into an emigrant. I think now is the moment in which you need an assistant to type.

I rather think your talents are in art and not in languages. Nice excuse, though.

Thank you, finally someone understands the division of my skills.

On the same note, is there anything at all that Munich has to offer, which makes it more feasible to be here as a young artist?

(laughs). Having no competition. Loneliness. Hahahah. 

Beer is the wine of this country, any comment on that?

Beer is the wife of this country. That’s nice. Ok, next question.

What does Joe say?

At the moment Joe is silent. He’s always there when I have nothing to say. He’s smarter than me. And fast. He’s backing me up.

Who the hell is Joe?

Good question. One day I sent Markus (Miessen) a picture of me and a sculpture I made of Joe, “Me and Joe say Hi!”. He replied, “Me and Simon are saying Hi!, too.” I said, “Who the hell is Simon”, and he said his alter ego.

Joe is your alter ego?

Joe is my counterpart in my artistic production. Filling the gaps on production and the speed of professional requests I get. 

Is he your boyfriend?

He’s more than a boyfriend. Sometimes I think: how would Joe answer these questions?

Silly questions?

No, I am super polite.

Well, today, when we had to reschedule the interview, you called me an asshole.

Once you called me silly in front of Schumanns at 9.45pm. So I thought it would be okay… Hey, that’s my drink. You need one yourself.

How has ‘Speculating on Blue’, the Kosovo pavilion at Venice Biennale changed your career?

Why are you laughing? 

I am amused by my attempts to do a regular interview. 

Change your profession, Lukas! You sloppy journalist that needs to see a football match later… Do you want one? I want another. The plan was to get drunk for this interview. Otherwise I would have been too intimidated. Do you want a cigarette, I know how to roll. Somebody gave me Youtube instructions.

What’s your next show at gallery Rüdiger Schöttle about?

It’s about “my gravity slipped away”. The title of the show now is “ – when I say, DANKE, it sounds German, right? – tea towels have something to do with tea. Very smart, right? (SMILEY).

Aha. So what’s your next show at gallery Schöttle all about?

I like it, it’s really weird. You know in the art world, people try to find meaning in something super banal. And then it goes the totally wrong direction. I am trying to make a joke about this. You know tea towels today are just towels. Back in the days, only experienced waiters were allowed to use the tea towel for the most fragile tea service. You know what I mean?

No! Thank your for the interview!

But I wanna go to the Karl Valentin museum. This is actually why I am here. You think I am here because of the village boys?

von Lukas Kubina